Friday, September 9, 2011

Probably why Daniel couldn't leave Horrenberg....

Aw'right!--we Buckmanish descendants come thru for each other again!  This time, I sent copies of Daniel's file (denying his family permission to emigrate to America in 1853) to Michael Hortsch, who lives and teaches in Michigan....actually, not too far from Jackson ☺. The Hortschs are related more thru the Hesch/Otremba side of the family, but I doubt his graciousness comes from them.  Michael was educated in Germany and speaks fluent German.  No doubt his attempts at reading Suetterlin from 158 years ago would be rough, but WAY better than Larrys or mine.
Of all times to ask a college prof/scientist for a favor, early September is probably one of the least-well-thought-out.  But being all excited about discovering Daniel's story from Stephen and Carrie, I assume it'll be just as interesting to everybody else.  Honest.  And Michael didn't  run away screaming, so....
Here's what he thought:
From what I understand from the pages I looked at, the major concern that local administration is expressing is the financial support the Janson family is lacking for their travels to America.  One document is a statement of a Peter Körner, who came visiting from America and he promises to pay for the food the family would need while traveling.  However, the local council doubts even that his support is sufficient as they state that they don't know whether Peter Körner has the money to keep his promise.  On some other pages are excerpts from the local church books about the Janson family. I am not sure how helpful my transcripts are as I was unable to decipher everything and I am unable to read many words.  I did not look at all the material and did not see a final verdict or justification of the denial to emigrate.
 I suspect Daniel owed money in town as well, since he'd just lost his fight with the municipality of Horrenberg over where to build the city hall.  It must have been galling to stay there, too.  
ADDED LATER:
Stephen wrote (March 2012) with questions--


The last Janson to own the Wilden Mann was Joseph (who was 16 years older than Daniel), and who owned it up to 1847.  Joseph was able to emigrate to the USA in 1853.  If he owned the inn and was able to emigrate, how does this supposedly hold back Daniel and his family?  Daniel never owned the inn, he may have worked there as a result of his brother owning the inn, but it lists his occupation in the family book as a Waldhuter, which suggests that he was a maker of hats...  
Hmm...a waldhuter was something to do with the forest (wald) but google thinks "huter" means "Moravian".  To be continued, probably! ☺
Anyway, here's what Michael found, in German, followed by the Google translation of it.

  We are SO indebted to Michael!




Page 7
(This page is an excerpt of the catholic church book)
Auszug
aus dem k?derbuch der Gebornenen und Getauften
der katholischen Pfarrgemeinde besteingen
Page 8
Auszüge
Aus den Pfarrbüchern der Pfarrei
Balzfeld
Daniel Janson Bürger und ?? zu Horrenberg ist
am 28ten Januar 1816 geboren und hat sich mit erster Ehe-
frau Regina Schweigert (gest. 2 Dez 1846) gezeugt:
a  Magdalena, geboren den 11 März 1844
b  Johannes, geboren den 19 Sept. 1845
mit zweiter Ehefrau Maria Anna Helfniger von
Oestringen (Östringen) gezeugt:
c  Josef, geboren den 26 Juli 1849
d Daniel, geboren den März 1850
e  Valentin, geboren den 7 August 1851
f  Christina, geboren den 11 Oktober 1852
Balzfeld, den 9 Februar 1853
Gr. Kath Pfarramt
Page 9
Grossherzogliches Bezirks Amt
Herrenberg am 18ten Februar 1853
Page 10
Grossherzogliches Bezirks Amt
Herrenberg den 28ten Februar 1853
Page 17
Geschehen ?? dem 24 ?? 1853
Verehrlicher Oberamtliche Verfügung vom 16? 
d.. M. Nr. 5443 zufolge, hat der Gemeinderath den
Peter Kürner welcher vor einigen Wochen aus
Amerika hierher gekommen ist auf das Rathhaus
Eingeladen, derselbe ist heute erschienen,… man
Hat ?? demselben das ?? gekommen…
Schreiben des Grossherzöglichen Bezirksamt Wies=
loch demselbigen vergelassen, und dessen Erklass?-
ung hierauf undergeschrieben, und ?? von
demselbigen unterzeichnen lassen wie folgt..
“derselbige erklärt sich, dass er für die ??
Jansen Eheleute samt 6 Kindern, nur die Leb=
ensmittel bei der Überfahrt ?? nach Am=
merika bestreiten wolle, allse übrigen
Kosten für die Überfahrt muß Daniel Jan=
Page 18
sen selbst für sich und seine Familie be=
streiten für ???
habe er keine Mittel und habe es ?? seinem
??? nicht ?? ?? alle zu
zahlen. ??? und als ?? angegebenen
??? unterzeichnet
Peter Körner
Der ??? Gemeinderath hat hiermit
Zu bemerrken, dass nicht einmal er ??
?? nur Peter Kürner so viel Mittel besitze
um die hier versprochenen Lebensmittel für
fragliche Familie bestreiten zu können, hier
besitzt er keine Mittel, und ob er zu ??
?? so viel BaarGeld mitgebracht 
und ?? besitzt ist ihnen nicht
bekannt, ??? hat derselbe keins
?? und ?? wurden zur ge=
fällig ?? Verfügung ??
Oestringen den 24 Febr 1853
Gemeinderath
(5 signatures, probably the members of the Gemeinderat)


Page 8
Excerpts
From the parish books of the parish
Balzfeld
Daniel Janson and citizens? is Horrenberg
Born on 28th January 1816 and has been with first-marriage
Schweigert wife Regina (d. December 2, 1846) begat:
a Magdalena, born the March 11, 1844
b born John, 19 Sept. 1845
with second wife Maria Anna of Helfniger
Oestringen (Östringen) begat:
c Joseph, born in the July 26, 1849
d Daniel, born on March 1850
e Valentin, born on 7 August 1851
f Christina, born in the October 11, 1852
Balzfeld, the February 9, 1853
Gr. Catholic rectory
Page 9
Great Duke's district office
Mr. Berg on the 18th February 1853
Page 10
Great Duke's district office
Herrenberg the 28th February 1853
Page 17
Happen? the 24? 1853
Official Upper honorable order of 16?
d.. M. No. 5443 According to the municipal council has the
Peter Kürner from which a few weeks ago
America has come here at the Council House
Invited, the same is released today, one ...
Has? the same? come ...
Letter from the district office Grossherzöglichen meadow =
vergelassen same hole, and its top notch? -
UNG under written thereon, and? of
have the same sign as follows ..
"SAME explained that he for?
Jansen married people, including six children, only the Leb =
ensmittel at the crossing? by Am =
would deny Merika, alls other
Cost for the trip must Daniel Jan =
Page 18
sen for himself and his family be =
arguing for?
He did not have any means and it? his
? not? ? to all
. pay ? and when? given
? signed
Peter Körner
The? Common Council has hereby
To bemerrken that not even he?
? Peter Kürner only possess so many means
here the promised food for
Family dispute in question can be here
he has no funds, and that he?
? baar brought so much money
and? owns them is not
known? none has the same
? and? were to ge =
due? Available?
Oestringen the 24 Feb 1853
Common Council
(5 signatures, probably the members of the council)


Thank you, Michael, for all your help ☺

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