The Nick & Sophie Daniel Family

 Woohoo! We heard from another descendant of Johnnes Janson  (one of two Janson immigrants cousins who came to Buckman in 1883).  We have lots of info here already about the Nick Daniel family, but this pic is new, and was sent by Bob, who is the son of the beautiful young couple (front row, left).
That's Nick and Sophie (Janson Daniel), there in the middle.

Bob sent a list of names, but I'll re-type it so it's searchable:

CHILDREN AND SPOUSES OF 

HENRY NICHOLAS "NICK" DANIEL & SOPHIA HELENA (JANSON) DANIEL

40th Wedding Anniversary,

May 21, 1947

Lawrence & Lillian (Wierer) Daniel, Harold & Mamerta (Daniel) Pollnow, Celestine & Virginia (Schuster) Daniel, Jerome & Rosemary (Dwyer) Daniel, Reinhold & Elizabeth (Valerius) Daniel, Norman & Lois (Klug) Daniel;

Henry & Ruth (Metzelfeld) Daniel, Nick and Sophie, Hilda (Daniel) & Al Braden.

Rodney & Elizabeth (Daniel) Garms, Dorothy Daniel, 

and Margaret (Luzenski) & Claude Daniel.

THANKS to Bob for sending this, and to Sophie & Nick for taking so many pictures over the years! ☺

Probably why Daniel couldn't leave Horrenberg....

Aw'right!--we Buckmanish descendants come thru for each other again!  This time, I sent copies of Daniel's file (denying his family permission to emigrate to America in 1853) to Michael Hortsch, who lives and teaches in Michigan....actually, not too far from Jackson ☺. The Hortschs are related more thru the Hesch/Otremba side of the family, but I doubt his graciousness comes from them.  Michael was educated in Germany and speaks fluent German.  No doubt his attempts at reading Suetterlin from 158 years ago would be rough, but WAY better than Larrys or mine.
Of all times to ask a college prof/scientist for a favor, early September is probably one of the least-well-thought-out.  But being all excited about discovering Daniel's story from Stephen and Carrie, I assume it'll be just as interesting to everybody else.  Honest.  And Michael didn't  run away screaming, so....
Here's what he thought:

From what I understand from the pages I looked at, the major concern that local administration is expressing is the financial support the Janson family is lacking for their travels to America.  One document is a statement of a Peter Körner, who came visiting from America and he promises to pay for the food the family would need while traveling.  However, the local council doubts even that his support is sufficient as they state that they don't know whether Peter Körner has the money to keep his promise.  On some other pages are excerpts from the local church books about the Janson family. I am not sure how helpful my transcripts are as I was unable to decipher everything and I am unable to read many words.  I did not look at all the material and did not see a final verdict or justification of the denial to emigrate.

 I suspect Daniel owed money in town as well, since he'd just lost his fight with the municipality of Horrenberg over where to build the city hall.  It must have been galling to stay there, too.  
ADDED LATER:
Stephen wrote (March 2012) with questions--


The last Janson to own the Wilden Mann was Joseph (who was 16 years older than Daniel), and who owned it up to 1847.  Joseph was able to emigrate to the USA in 1853.  If he owned the inn and was able to emigrate, how does this supposedly hold back Daniel and his family?  Daniel never owned the inn, he may have worked there as a result of his brother owning the inn, but it lists his occupation in the family book as a Waldhuter, which suggests that he was a maker of hats...  
Hmm...a waldhuter was something to do with the forest (wald) but google thinks "huter" means "Moravian".  To be continued, probably! ☺

Anyway, here's what Michael found, in German, followed by the Google translation of it.

  We are SO indebted to Michael!

Page 7
(This page is an excerpt of the catholic church book)
Auszug
aus dem k?derbuch der Gebornenen und Getauften
der katholischen Pfarrgemeinde besteingen
Page 8
Auszüge
Aus den Pfarrbüchern der Pfarrei
Balzfeld
Daniel Janson Bürger und ?? zu Horrenberg ist
am 28ten Januar 1816 geboren und hat sich mit erster Ehe-
frau Regina Schweigert (gest. 2 Dez 1846) gezeugt:
a  Magdalena, geboren den 11 März 1844
b  Johannes, geboren den 19 Sept. 1845
mit zweiter Ehefrau Maria Anna Helfniger von
Oestringen (Östringen) gezeugt:
c  Josef, geboren den 26 Juli 1849
d Daniel, geboren den März 1850
e  Valentin, geboren den 7 August 1851
f  Christina, geboren den 11 Oktober 1852
Balzfeld, den 9 Februar 1853
Gr. Kath Pfarramt
Page 9
Grossherzogliches Bezirks Amt
Herrenberg am 18ten Februar 1853
Page 10
Grossherzogliches Bezirks Amt
Herrenberg den 28ten Februar 1853
Page 17
Geschehen ?? dem 24 ?? 1853
Verehrlicher Oberamtliche Verfügung vom 16? 
d.. M. Nr. 5443 zufolge, hat der Gemeinderath den
Peter Kürner welcher vor einigen Wochen aus
Amerika hierher gekommen ist auf das Rathhaus
Eingeladen, derselbe ist heute erschienen,… man
Hat ?? demselben das ?? gekommen…
Schreiben des Grossherzöglichen Bezirksamt Wies=
loch demselbigen vergelassen, und dessen Erklass?-
ung hierauf undergeschrieben, und ?? von
demselbigen unterzeichnen lassen wie folgt..
“derselbige erklärt sich, dass er für die ??
Jansen Eheleute samt 6 Kindern, nur die Leb=
ensmittel bei der Überfahrt ?? nach Am=
merika bestreiten wolle, allse übrigen
Kosten für die Überfahrt muß Daniel Jan=
Page 18
sen selbst für sich und seine Familie be=
streiten für ???
habe er keine Mittel und habe es ?? seinem
??? nicht ?? ?? alle zu
zahlen. ??? und als ?? angegebenen
??? unterzeichnet
Peter Körner
Der ??? Gemeinderath hat hiermit
Zu bemerrken, dass nicht einmal er ??
?? nur Peter Kürner so viel Mittel besitze
um die hier versprochenen Lebensmittel für
fragliche Familie bestreiten zu können, hier
besitzt er keine Mittel, und ob er zu ??
?? so viel BaarGeld mitgebracht 
und ?? besitzt ist ihnen nicht
bekannt, ??? hat derselbe keins
?? und ?? wurden zur ge=
fällig ?? Verfügung ??
Oestringen den 24 Febr 1853
Gemeinderath
(5 signatures, probably the members of the Gemeinderat)

Page 8

Excerpts

From the parish books of the parish

Balzfeld

Daniel Janson and citizens? is Horrenberg

Born on 28th January 1816 and has been with first-marriage

Schweigert wife Regina (d. December 2, 1846) begat:

a Magdalena, born the March 11, 1844

b born John, 19 Sept. 1845

with second wife Maria Anna of Helfniger

Oestringen (Östringen) begat:

c Joseph, born in the July 26, 1849

d Daniel, born on March 1850

e Valentin, born on 7 August 1851

f Christina, born in the October 11, 1852

Balzfeld, the February 9, 1853

Gr. Catholic rectory

Page 9

Great Duke's district office

Mr. Berg on the 18th February 1853

Page 10

Great Duke's district office

Herrenberg the 28th February 1853

Page 17

Happen? the 24? 1853

Official Upper honorable order of 16?

d.. M. No. 5443 According to the municipal council has the

Peter Kürner from which a few weeks ago

America has come here at the Council House

Invited, the same is released today, one ...

Has? the same? come ...

Letter from the district office Grossherzöglichen meadow =

vergelassen same hole, and its top notch? -

UNG under written thereon, and? of

have the same sign as follows ..

"SAME explained that he for?

Jansen married people, including six children, only the Leb =

ensmittel at the crossing? by Am =

would deny Merika, alls other

Cost for the trip must Daniel Jan =

Page 18

sen for himself and his family be =

arguing for?

He did not have any means and it? his

? not? ? to all

. pay ? and when? given

? signed

Peter Körner

The? Common Council has hereby

To bemerrken that not even he?

? Peter Kürner only possess so many means

here the promised food for

Family dispute in question can be here

he has no funds, and that he?

? baar brought so much money

and? owns them is not

known? none has the same

? and? were to ge =

due? Available?

Oestringen the 24 Feb 1853

Common Council

(5 signatures, probably the members of the council)

Thank you, Michael, for all your help ☺

They stayed in the old country

This precious photograph traveled a long way, and probably became almost painful to look at as the years went by.  The couple is Daniel Janson and his second wife, Maria Anna Hilfinger.

They were the parents of Daniel Janson, who settled in Rice Minnesota, and Stephan Janson, who settled in Jackson, Michigan.  He and his first wife, Regina, were the parents of Johannes Janson, who arrived in Buckman, Minnesota with my great grandfather, Josef Janson and settled there. 

 Daniel was born in 1816 in Balzfeld, Germany and died there in 1897 at 81. Anna Hilfinger Janson was born in 1822 and died in 1902, at 80.

When Horrenberg families left for America in those years, they said goodbye for ever.  We know Wendelin went back for a visit, and probably others did too, but Wendelin was a kid when he left and only 25 when he returned.  Still, he would definitely have visited this couple and told them all about Amerika.

  (In fact, he would have stopped in Michigan on his way to NYC to board the ship, since the train route ran between the Great Lakes and into Canada then).

 Below is Daniel and Anna's son, Stephen, as a young man in Germany.  He would have been in the service just like his half-brother Johannes. 

When Stephen the great grandson of Stephen the immigrant sent these photos, he remarked about the inherited traits passed down among the Jansons--how much the men resembled each other, gen after gen.  

Having Daniels pic now makes me agree even more.  Look:

Do the actually look alike, or have I studied them so much I can't tell?  I don't know when Stephan II was born, and maybe he's not in the right generation, but the idea is to compare faces.  

The second pic ("Daniel?") is speculating, but he and the gentleman marked "guest" were at Johannes' 50th wedding anniversary in 1924.  

I think "Daniel?" might have been Johannes' brother from Rice, Mn and Stephan (who would have been 67) probably attended too, huh?

------------------

Nope, to answer my own question: Daniel Janson, who settled in Rice, Mn died in 1910, so he couldn't have been at the anniversary in 1924.  So, who was that bearded man?  He's the one who looks most like Johannes...

WOW, Stephan, these are so COOL!

The Daniel Janson papers from 1853

Johannes Janson's family historian and genealogist Carrie took the time to scan almost 30 pages of an application prepared in Horrenberg, Germany, in 1853, when Johannes' parents wanted to emigrate to America.  They were Daniel Janson and his wife Maria Anna (Helfinger) Janson and six children.
Carrie was able to decipher some of it, and Larry and I have barely begun.  It's almost all handwritten by different people, so some looks legible and other parts look pretty scribbly.  Still, I want to post it so it's available as an historic document, and so maybe someone will be able to read it and see what they were required to document...and perhaps find the reason they were denied.

I think I'll post it five pages at a time cuz thats how Carrie sent it, and cuz it's less overwhelming that way ☺. All the pages should enlarge when you click on them.
From what I copied to Google Translate, the cover sheet says, more or less:

Großherzogl. Badisches
Bezirksamt Wiesloch
Verwaltungssachen
Ort: Horrenberg
Rubrik: Wegzug
Trans:
Grand Ducal. Baden  
District Office Wiesloch
Administrative Cases
Location: Horrenberg
Category: Exit
and then officialese for "Daniel Janson wants to leave with his family ASAP".....



Page 2 pretty much identifies who they're talking about.  Daniel was married twice, so the two children from his deceased wife are listed as tho they're contraband, before the second family. Still, that fussiness gives us all kinds of detail.
Kids from wife I, Regina Schweigert:
1) Magdalena 9 years old
2) Johannes   7    "      " 
Kids from wife II, Maria Anna Hilfinger:
3) Joseph      4 years old
4) Daniel       3   "      "
5) Valentin     2  "      "
6) Christina    1/4 "    "


Towards the bottom of the page theres something about 200.  A fee they had to pay?


 I assume some of this was affidavits from friends or religious docs from the priest, or tentative permission from local officials like the mayor.  
Or it could be documents that say they've paid all the debts they owed in town.


(Click the pages to enlarge)...


I think 4 and 5 is a statement by Daniel and Maria Anna themselves.  Their signatures are mid-page on 5, see?









The script they were taught to write was called Suetterlin. Here's a clear letter-for-letter transcription of their names.  (It's an interesting exercise to ID one letter and go find that same letter in the rest of the pages.  Handwriting really does make a difference!)


 Isn't this COOL?

NEW COUSINS--The Michigan Jansons

Dielheim

Our folks came from a few small towns south of Mannheim--Baiertal, Balzfeld, Dielheim, Horrenburg--all in a string within 5-10 miles of each other.  They left for Amerika in the 1880s, particularly JOHANNES, DANIEL, JOSEF...and STEPHAN. 

We know Johannes, Daniel and Josef settled in Minnesota in 1883, and our just-revealed Stephan arrived in Michigan 1889 or so.  How did these men connect to each other?


Well, the ancestor-couple we have in common was Georg Valentin Janson (b 1773) and his wife Eva Katherina Reissfelder (b 1781).  They had a son, Johannes (1803), who married Maria Juliana Bayer (1801), and their youngest son was Josef (1844), our great grandfather, who settled in Buckman, Mn.


Ok so far?


Now, Georg Valentin and Eva Katherina Janson had another son, Daniel, (1816), who was married twice and so had two families. The first wife was Regina Schweigert (1820), and their firstborn was Johannes (b 1845) who came here with his cousin, GG Josef.


When Regina died in 1847, Daniel married Maria Anna Helfinger (1822).  THEIR son Daniel (1850) was the Janson who settled in Rice, Minnesota, and, their son STEPHAN (1857) was the Janson who settled in Michigan, and whose great grandson contacted Kenny and me this week.  


Now, I hope I got that all straight, and that YOU understood even half of it.  Remember, the test at the end will constitute 75% of your grade.

YAY! Welcome (back) to Stephan's descendants--we've been waiting for you! ☺

Daniel's newspaper ad, 1853

Johannes Janson's family historian and genealogist (Carrie) took the time to scan almost 30 pages of an application prepared in Horrenberg, Germany, in 1853, when Johannes' parents wanted to emigrate to America.  They were Daniel Janson and his wife Maria Anna (Helfinger) Janson and six children.

Here's the newspaper page from 1853 Horrenberg, with lots of ads concerning 'auswanderen', the people who wanted to leave Europe.  Click the page and look for this little ship--Daniel's ad is to the right of it, in the 4th column.

     

OK, here's my attempt to transcribe the ad to Google Translate.  This is what I came up with, but you should be a little skeptical:

A.468 Nr. 4794.  Wiesloch.  (Schulden liquidation.)  Daniel Janson Eheleute von Horrenberg vollen nach Amerika auswandern. Zur Anmeldung etwaiger Forderungen wird Tagfahrt auf Freitag, den 11. d. M., Morgens, 10 11 hr auf diesseitiger Amtskanzlei anberaumt.  

Weisloch den 1 Marz 1853

Grossb. bad. Bezirksamt 

Frohlich

A 468. Number 4794.  Weisloch.  (Debt liquidation.)  Daniel Janson of Horrenberg with his wife and family to emigrate to America.  For any claims of debt he owes, please show up on Friday the 11th between 10 and 11 in the morning.  

Weisloch, 1 March 1853

By the authority of

District officer Froelich

A huge THANK YOU to Carrie for sharing her research and these pages.  

See, there ARE Janson Angels!

More clues...

One of the neatest things about online research is that you can cast such a wide net.  If you type JANSON into a search engine, any mention of the name shows up in all the documents that engine has access to.  Then, the human brain chooses which hits are relevant. 
Not that long ago, searching for family was incredibly hit-and-miss ("Hmm, maybe born in Buckman, records would be in the church books.  I need to go there and see..."). 
But now, records are often online, especially census pages.  Looking for Jansons in Minnesota in, say, 1900, on ancestry.com narrows the search to...wow!  Not only Joseph's family in Hampden, Virginia, and John's family in Mayhew Lake, but Daniel Janson, in Rice!

Hmm, my tree doesn't show a Daniel Janson born in 1850, but there's a good chance he's related, as Larry says, by proximity.

Ok, so what else is online about this man?  He was 50 in 1900, and with his wife Katherine, had 5 children--Alois, Sophia, Amelia, Joseph and Daniel, Jr.

They owned land west of Rice--10 acres of what I know to be sand prairie.  Our Master Researcher Larry found this plat map from 1903:

                                                                             (While it doesn't tell us much about them, the map adds to our general knowledge of the area...like, where the train depot in Rice was, and that there was a hotel right across the tracks.  (When I was a little girl, I remember dropping Little Grandpa off there).  And look, Rice had 2 schools, and a stockyard, and a second hotel.  It was a small but booming village).



Daniel died in 1910.  His son Joseph, 27 and single, must have seen profit in adding to the size of Rice.  This "Jos. Janson First Addition to the Village of Rice" plat is also online (Thank you, Larry!):

 

These are intriguing clues, ya know? 

Eventually, we'll find out how Daniel connects.  Mysteries abound, but some of the answers are online...we just haven't found them, yet.  Sometimes, tho, all it takes is a trip to the cemetery:

Immaculate Conception Cemetery, Rice Minnesota

Daniel Janson papers part 2

Johannes Janson's family historian and genealogist (Carrie) took the time to scan almost 30 pages of an application prepared in Horrenberg, Germany, in 1853, when Johannes' parents wanted to emigrate to America.  They were Daniel Janson and his wife Maria Anna (Helfinger) Janson and six children.
 A fascinating part of the era when Daniel and Maria Anna Janson were denied permission to leave Horrenberg was that other Jansons did leave that year.
Carrie mentioned information she has from someone named Robert Heimann.   She said "in 1999, he gave me a list of Jansons who emigrated in the 1800s from Horrenberg. Egidius Janson to NJ bef 1873, Joseph b. 1844 to US 1883 (yours), Katharina b. 1831 to US 1852, Valentin to Columbia/USA 1853, Sophie, Theresia, Valentin & Veronika to US 1853".  (NOT a complete list, we know).
But according to him, six Janson individuals left, probably with spouses, that year.  We don't know what generation four of them represented, but one of the Valentins could have been Dan's older brother, born in 1805.  
This calls for more investigatin' ☺, I think!

BTW, it's fun to see how MANY times  you can find "Daniel Janson" in these pages.  (I know, it depends on your idea of "fun"...lol)

Da Choe und da Chon

When we were kids, mom said that two brothers came here from Germany and settled in Minnesota--Joseph and Johannes Janson (Choe & Chon).  One of the first things Larry and I discovered when we started looking was that they were not brothers, but cousins, and that actually, THREE Janson families came here that year.

In genealogy, you talk about the "common ancestor", or what person, how far back, connects all of us?  In this case, it's Georg Valentin Janson and his wife Eva Kathrina Reissfelder.  Georg was born in 1773, Eva in 1781, and they had ten children, two of whom were

JOHANNES (b 1803)

and

DANIEL (b 1816)

in Horrenberg, Heidelberg, Baden, Germany

Johannes Janson and his wife Maria Juliana Bayer had ten kids, one of whom was JOSEPH JANSON (1844), the immigrant who became our great grandfather.

Daniel Janson and his first wife, Regina Schweigert had at least three kids, one of whom was JOHN JANSON (1845), the immigrant who arrived with our great grandparents.

Daniel Janson and his second wife Maria Anna Helfinger, had at least one son,

DANIEL JANSON (1850), who arrived in the US a few months later 

and settled in Rice, Minnesota.

(OK, now that's clear.  Commit it to memory, cuz there'll be a quiz at the end of the blog).

Wendelin's "Dan Janson"

Back in November, 2009, I posted a letter that grandpa Anton's brother Wendelin wrote as Anton lay dying at Wendelin's house in LA.  He was angry that Anton hadn't stayed in Minnesota, and, I think, that it was beginning to seem like Jansons came to California to die...on Wendelin's dime.
In the letter, he wrote that  "we can't let this thing end up like Dan Janson..." Larry and I had no idea what that meant--we hadn't discovered Daniel yet (in Rice, Mn) and what could have happened that upset Wendelin so?  
Eventually Larry and I pieced stuff together,and realized he meant his father's COUSIN Dan, the Janson immigrant who'd settled in Rice.  
"None of you would be in Buckman or St Cloud today without the help from here.  I’ll tell you again, we just can’t afford to let this end up like Dan Janson we just can’t".
Whew.  Dan Janson died in Sacramento, California November 10, 1910.  Grandpa Anton died in 1955, so Wendelin was still smarting about something that happened 45 years earlier.  Did Mom and Uncle Reinhard even know what he was talking about?


Frankly, we don't know the story either, but we can speculate:  based on the fact that even in 1955 when grandpa Anton died there, he couldn't be shipped home unaccompanied on the train.  A relative had to claim the body and go along with it--so in 1910, was Wendelin elected to take time off work, identify the body, and take Daniel home?  And oh-oh, was he expected to pay for both, plus doctor bills?  

Daniel and Wendelin would have known each other, surely, but they probably weren't close, or it wouldn't have bugged him quite so much.  Obviously it did anyway, all those years later.

Daniel Janson Papers, part 4

Johannes Janson's family historian and genealogist (Carrie) took the time to scan almost 30 pages of an application prepared in Horrenberg, Germany, in 1853, when Johannes' parents wanted to emigrate to America.  They were Daniel Janson and his wife Maria Anna (Helfinger) Janson and six children.

 I'm particularly curious about page 19 from this batch--with its official stamp marks, over-writing and (angry-looking) circled sections.  Like some official was pissed off and lost his temper, ya know?


I wonder, too, if Daniel and family ever got to see the finished, rejected application?  With all the different handwriting involved, were some of these pages slanderous?






WHAT would make the town say "NO, you have to stay"?

Jansons in the Pierz Journal

ACK!  It's such a shame that mom's family was so private.  The Janson mentions are rare in the 'Buckman News' column in the Pierz Journal, even with Math Hesch being a close neighbor.   Still, once in awhile.....

This visit may have been the occasion this photo was taken, huh?

____________________________

OK, this one refers to Joe Janson the blacksmith in Buckman, not our great grandfather Joe.

 ___________________________

A whole string of extended family mentions here, starting with the news (still new to us in 2012!) that GG Joe went to California to recuperate.  Was this the occasion for one of the financial setbacks Grandpa Anton spoke of?

Grasping at straws, see?  But this proves grandpa was spotted in town.

 Great grandpa Joseph Janson died on December 19, 1911

December 28, 1911

_________________________________

____________________________

Finding this next clip was stunning for a number of reasons--one being that the PJ didn't know Daniel's name, but printed the item anyway.  Also, Daniel must have been well known in Pierz/Lastrup/Buckman, because of his brother John Janson.  People "knew" which Janson they meant, I guess.

We didn't know that Daniel died in California, either.  

From the Pierz Journal, December 1, 1910:

 (BTW, Larry thinks it's cool to see an incidence of a  letter misplaced by the typesetter ☺)

This state fair seal was in the Journal.  I just thought it was cool.

Pictures from a NEW Janson cousin-YAY!

A quick review:  Two Janson families arrived in Buckman, Minnesota in April 1883.  One couple was Joseph and Franziska Janson, my great grandparents.  The other was Joseph's cousin Johannes and his wife Maria (Sauer) Janson.  Both families had five young kids, and both wives were pregnant.
  
If you want more of a review, we've done quite a few posts on them, partly because they TOOK LOTS OF PICTURES thru the years--hooray!--and partly because the rift between the two families from back then seems to be faded, finally.
Early this week, I heard from a great great grandaughter of Johannes and Maria Janson.  Her name's Sue, and she had even more mystery photos to share.  Let me show you a couple, after a chronology of the pics we already have of Johann & Maria's family.  This is so COOL!

C 1895

 Sue's lineage comes thru Sophia Janson, who married a neighbor boy, (Henry) Nicholas Daniel, in 1907, in Buckman, Minnesota.

In the 1895 photo, I think Sophie is the girl on the left, and she's named in the oval portrait...in 1925, she's on the right, for a change.

A very interesting thing about this batch of sibs is that they seemed to get together often during their long lives, and from the pics, they seemed  to be good buddies, too.  Almost all the informal photos have arms around each other, or they're holding hands...like they were delighted to see each other again.  
Anyway, in the interests of getting to bed early tonight, let's go on to some of the new pics from Sue, ok?

This is Nick and Sophie Daniel in 1907, on their wedding day, and in about 1947, since the portrait was taken for their 40th wedding anniversary according to Dophie's sister Dorothy. (Thanks, Dorothy!☺).  
Maybe you can get a feel for their faces, to see if they're included in this next picture:




We've studied this pic for a couple evenings, trying to figure out who the adults are, and what year it was.  Maria, who died in 1926, is not in this pic, but Johann, who died in 1929, is, so it's reasonable to think the gathering was between those years (also, the ages of their kids in the pic are right for those years).

I think at least eight of the Janson sibs appear in this photo. (Read the comments--Carrie Portlance says fewer, and that the children and young adults are, of course, cousins).

Looks like it may have been same day that this four person pic was taken, too...at first, L to R, I thought they were Catherine, Peter, Regina and John Janson, the four youngest of Johann & Maria's kids, but no--they're Mike's boys and aunts, maybe?

There are more pics from our 'new' cousin Sue, but I have grandkids to see tomorrow, so you'll just need to wait for a day or two.  

Trust me, it'll add excitement and the

an-ti-cip-payayay-shun is GOOD for you ☺

THANKS for these, Sue.  

We're so glad you found us!